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I've heard that they were almost identical in belief structure. What are the exact comparisons between C. Taze Russell and Harold Camping teachings?
Any contrasting comparisons would be great to know too.
Answer
I can't give exact comparisons without studying Camping's publications a little more, but here are some of the similarities I've found.
Similar DOCTRINES:
1) The Trinity is a lie.
2) There is no such thing as eternal hell. (Camping is an annihilationist)
3) Jesus is actually Michael the archangel.
4) All of the churches in the world are apostate (they have fallen away from the truth).
5) He is restoring true Christianity.
6) The Holy Spirit is no longer working in the church.
Similar METHODS:
Many of Camping's followers have apparently sold their homes and business, or dipped into their savings and retirement accounts and are traveling around the country in RV's and vans that look like moving billboards, with messages that read:
âHave you heard the awesome news? â The end of the world is almost here! It begins May 21st, 2010 â The Bible guarantees itâ
They have also purchased billboard advertising in various places, as well as ads in magazines, and many have observed his followers standing around in crowded downtown (metro) areas wearing signs around their necks advertising the end of the world.
I'm not sure whether Charles Taze Russell's followers ever did anything similar to this at the time of his predictions. I'd have to look into that, and newspapers of the time would be a good source. However, the Watchtower Society, under the leadership of its second president, Joseph Rutherford, did conduct a similar campaign between 1918 and the early '20s, entitled, "Millions Now Living Will Never Die." The kick-off talk for this campaign was broadcast over the Watchtower-owned radio station, WBBR. JW's also drove around in cars draped with campaign signs, and they marched around in major cities wearing placards to announce this.
Also, Camping's method of Bible interpretation is very similar to Russell's. He employs numerology, assigning his own definitions to various numbers found in the Bible. Then he applies allegorical or metaphorical meanings to passages that give no indication they should be taken any other way than literally to lend support to his definitions. Finally, he applies a literal meaning to the first half of 2 Peter 3:8, connecting this verse to the numbers he's picked out and multiplying them. The main difference I see is that Camping starts at the time of the flood rather than the creation of Adam, and it doesn't appear that the Great Pyramid figured into any of Camping's calculations.
Similar MIND CONTROL tactics (fear and intimidation):
Camping's followers all left any churches they may have previously been associated with because he told them that anyone who is still an active member of any other church will be destroyed by God on Judgment Day, since the churches are all run by Satan.
Also, they have all participated to some degree in the worldwide "warning work" to get the "good news" out that people can be raptured on May 21st and then enjoy the paradise like conditions that God will bring about after he destroys the world on October 21st if they will cry out to "Jehovah," leave their churches and join them.
I can't give exact comparisons without studying Camping's publications a little more, but here are some of the similarities I've found.
Similar DOCTRINES:
1) The Trinity is a lie.
2) There is no such thing as eternal hell. (Camping is an annihilationist)
3) Jesus is actually Michael the archangel.
4) All of the churches in the world are apostate (they have fallen away from the truth).
5) He is restoring true Christianity.
6) The Holy Spirit is no longer working in the church.
Similar METHODS:
Many of Camping's followers have apparently sold their homes and business, or dipped into their savings and retirement accounts and are traveling around the country in RV's and vans that look like moving billboards, with messages that read:
âHave you heard the awesome news? â The end of the world is almost here! It begins May 21st, 2010 â The Bible guarantees itâ
They have also purchased billboard advertising in various places, as well as ads in magazines, and many have observed his followers standing around in crowded downtown (metro) areas wearing signs around their necks advertising the end of the world.
I'm not sure whether Charles Taze Russell's followers ever did anything similar to this at the time of his predictions. I'd have to look into that, and newspapers of the time would be a good source. However, the Watchtower Society, under the leadership of its second president, Joseph Rutherford, did conduct a similar campaign between 1918 and the early '20s, entitled, "Millions Now Living Will Never Die." The kick-off talk for this campaign was broadcast over the Watchtower-owned radio station, WBBR. JW's also drove around in cars draped with campaign signs, and they marched around in major cities wearing placards to announce this.
Also, Camping's method of Bible interpretation is very similar to Russell's. He employs numerology, assigning his own definitions to various numbers found in the Bible. Then he applies allegorical or metaphorical meanings to passages that give no indication they should be taken any other way than literally to lend support to his definitions. Finally, he applies a literal meaning to the first half of 2 Peter 3:8, connecting this verse to the numbers he's picked out and multiplying them. The main difference I see is that Camping starts at the time of the flood rather than the creation of Adam, and it doesn't appear that the Great Pyramid figured into any of Camping's calculations.
Similar MIND CONTROL tactics (fear and intimidation):
Camping's followers all left any churches they may have previously been associated with because he told them that anyone who is still an active member of any other church will be destroyed by God on Judgment Day, since the churches are all run by Satan.
Also, they have all participated to some degree in the worldwide "warning work" to get the "good news" out that people can be raptured on May 21st and then enjoy the paradise like conditions that God will bring about after he destroys the world on October 21st if they will cry out to "Jehovah," leave their churches and join them.
Where can I go primitive camping in the New York area?
MZ
Looking for a place where I can go primitive camping (open camping/dispersion camping) within driving distance (less than 5 hours) in the New York City area. Anyone know of a National Forest or park that allows this that they would recommend? One with great hiking would be ideal. I'm looking to go in the fall when the leaves start the change. Many thanks.
Answer
you can get to many places within a 5 hour radius of nyc...
in new york state you can go to the adirondacks or catskills (the catskills are closer but the ADK's are way more magnificent)...
since you're willing to drive up to 5 hours you can also get to places within new england such as vermont and new hampshire..in NH the area around mt washington and the presidential range has the best mountain scenery in the east
...as far as specific camp istes you'll have to do your own research depending on if you want to car camp, backpack or canoe camp and depending on how difficult you want
you can get to many places within a 5 hour radius of nyc...
in new york state you can go to the adirondacks or catskills (the catskills are closer but the ADK's are way more magnificent)...
since you're willing to drive up to 5 hours you can also get to places within new england such as vermont and new hampshire..in NH the area around mt washington and the presidential range has the best mountain scenery in the east
...as far as specific camp istes you'll have to do your own research depending on if you want to car camp, backpack or canoe camp and depending on how difficult you want
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