Anyone own an Outwell Tent?

Q. Ive been looking at purchasing an Outwell Tent. My only problem I think I have with them is there isnt no mesh windows for superior ventilation in the summer heat.I know they have ventilation area's but Im not sure it would be enough when it gets hot hear In Southern Ont. Canada. I realize you can open up the panaramic rooms, but then again the bugs... just curious if anyone does have one how well they really do stay cool in our hot summer months. Uk answers welcome too, thanks.

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They are a european tent maker very popular in the UK. Some folks here will pretend to know the product, ie MM,

Never used them myself looking at the different models they have a dome style with very ample windows for ventilation, some are humongous is size so definitely a car camping tent not for back packing at all. Reading the reviews is how you will get real answers from folks that have owned them, check their web site out and find a supplier near you
http://www.outwell.com/

Here in the America's car camping tent makers that are popular are Coleman, Eureka, and Wenzel and a host of other knock off brands found at retail outlets that sell camping goods. These brand names will be in the affordable class. There are also high end tent makers that make some family sized tents and purportedly you do pay for what you get. Not knowing what your specific need is I will stick to recommending the Coleman line of family tents as these are more like the Outwell brands in comparison
http://coleman.com/.

What is the biggest camping tent available?

anonymous

I am leading a youth group camping trip this summer and I'm looking for a very large tent to accommodate optimally 15-16 people? I have looked at several 12 person tents (Gettysburg 12 Family Camping Tunnel Tent, Trekker⢠20' x 16' Cabin Tent and the Copper Canyon 12), but was hoping for something maybe a bit bigger.

Positive reviews about waterproofing is also a must. Our tents last year leaked horribly in the rain, even with the rain fly on and tarp underneath.

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How much money do you have, how big do you need to go?
http://armytents.com/tents/tent-tmpr.html

As far as managing a group several smaller tents would be more suitable, you can arrange the tents around a central canopy for example like the circling of the wagon trains of old. this works best with vertical wall tents of the cabin styles like the Copper Canyon 12 or the Coleman Instant 8. Figure also gear for each camper unless they are on a cot each person will have gear that takes up sleeping space so figure 1 extra space for 3 persons is needed so a four man tent actually comfortably sleeps three, an eight man sleeps 6 and so on.

Personally as having been there done that thousands of times as a scoutmaster, The Coleman Tent family has the best reputation for staying dry in and not breaking the bank, so I highly recommend them.

http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-14x10-Foot-Person-Instant/dp/B003QUT9OE/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1360109250&sr=8-7&keywords=12+man+tent

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Does anyone know some good places to go camping in Cornwall?

Q. THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE.

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I loved the campsite at Treen http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/sites/details.asp?revid=4996 ... it's on top of the cliffs right next to the coastal path (lovely walks along the coastal path in that area) ... unfortunately they don't do advance bookings and they have to give preference to walkers of the coastal path, so if you want to stay there you'd need to plan to get there in the morning and hope they have space ... it's a short walk out to the Logan Rock, you can walk along the coastal path to Porthcurno where there's a theatre carved out of the cliffs, a lovely beach, and a telegraphy museum ... and there's a great pub in Treen that does lovely meals

Your recommended place for camping in UK?

woolies

hello all
I want to go for camping for a week, so any awesome places in your mind.
Thanks

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Depends what your interests are...
Anywhere in.....
Scotland
Wales
Derbyshire...Peak District
Cornwall
Devon
Dorset
Yorkshire (North or West)
Lake District
Northern Ireland has some great scenery too

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camping tents?

rosemary j

what are some good quality camping tents

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The best are made by a company called The North Face, but can be quite expensive. We camp all the time, and have a Coleman family tent, an Ozark Trail tent (from Wal-mart, I think made by Coleman), and an REI back-packer's 2-man tent. If you have any sporting goods store nearby (Bass Pro Shop has an excellent assortment), go in and talk to a sales person. Keep in mind that the size of the tent (how many people it sleeps) is a very crowded fit. For 4 people to be comfy, with duffelbags inside, you really need an 8-person tent. Keep in mind, too, seasonality, the type of material the floor is made of (you don't want it to tear if you have to put it up on a gravel or rocky area), and weight.

cheap and quality family tent?

Q. my family wanna go camping in several days in Georgia National Park,we need a camping tent and some cooking supplies.pls kindly recommend cheap and quality ones.thx 4 ur kindness.

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As long as the weather is fair you can make almost any tent work for you. The Coleman Instant Tent 6 or 8 person models are preferred by many because they are easy to set-up and take down, but run in the $150-200 range. The Coleman Sundome Chris recommends is a good, low-priced tent, but is not as spacious or easy to setup as the Instant Tent, thought it would probably do better in the rain. Choose the one that makes the most sense based on your family size, allowing extra capacity so you can keep your clothing inside without being cramped.

You can use blankets from home or buy sleeping bags to make your bed. If choosing sleeping bags, pick a model that is rated at least 20*F lower than the coldest temperature you expect to encounter. You can always unzip the bag if it gets too warm, or sleep on top. Again, Coleman makes some decent fair-weather sleeping bags, also look at Kelty and Slumberjack. Expect to pay $50 and up for a decent sleeping bag, typically the more money you spend the smaller the bag will be when packed away.

Whether you use blankets or a sleeping bag you will want to have some padding underneath you. Some use cots, which cost around $100 each. Some are ok with foam pads, costing from $8 to $50. Then there's self-inflating mattresses, $50-150, which use expandable foam and air for padding and insulation. Finally you can use regular blow-up air mattresses, which range from $20 to over $100 and are available in single, double, queen and king sizes. In colder weather, foam and self-inflating mattresses are the best choice, as cots and air mattresses provide no insulation value.

In terms of cooking, a two-burner Coleman propane stove costs around $50, and disposable 16oz propane canisters cost between $2.50 and $3.50, each will last about 2 days. You can bring pots, pans and cooking utensils from home. You might need to bring one or two folding tables (1 to cook at, the other to eat at, about $45 each) and folding chairs ($15 to 75 each, depending on model). And a battery-operated lantern ($40-75). Use disposable plates, bowls and eating utensils to save money and time cleaning. You will also need coolers to keep your food and beverages cold. The Coleman Xtreme coolers are the best available for the money, and I recommend you get two: one for food and the other for beverages.

Don't forget some trash bags, napkins, paper towels, dish soap and hand soap. And a collapsible trash can is convenient. Also, a first aid kit is a good idea.

All this stuff is available at most WalMart stores.

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looking for camps that I can rent a tent or cheap room around salzburg?

Q. I'm traveling alone with budget in the countryside and nature around Salzburg and Munich.
I don't know, and donât want to build a tent etc.
Looking for a camp near lakes that I can rent a room /tent / another cheap option for 1 person to sleep.
OR looking for cheap place to stay in the villages around there.


Thank you very much

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Not likely to find any camping from about october to april. Too cold.
You can try couchsurfers, join up and look for private folk who offer a couch (or bed) for the night for free, and you could also do the same in your own home. Some offer to show you their city, or only meet your for a cup of coffee, or take you in for a meal and a place to sleep . . . take a look at the site

https://www.couchsurfing.org/

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Guide-g187309-l234-Munich_Upper_Bavaria_Bavaria.html
http://www.fodors.com/community/europe/best-budget-tips-in-berlin-and-munich-and-the-rest-of-germany.cfm
http://www.eurocheapo.com/salzburg/features/budget-tips-salzburg.html

Dachau Concentration Camp and WW2?

Q. Can you tell me what Dachau play a role or / influence the WW2?

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Dachau was a camp that local Germans claimed to have no knowledge of. This is hard to imagine, as the town of Dachau was a small country resort, where it was hard to overlook strange events. They must have noticed large numbers of people coming in on the train, but very few leaving. And they often complained about the odd smell coming from the camp, but no one investigated.

This was probably the most westerly of the camps - most Holocaust victims were in Russia and Poland - so would have been the first liberated by non-Russian allies. As such, it would have awakened Americans and other allies to the realities of the Holocaust.

I recommend visiting the place, as many visitors to Munich do. ! Outside is a plaque proclaiming, 'Those who don't learn History are doomed to...' (from AMerican philosopher, George Santayanna) Everything is made to look new, as if you're visiting on a typical day.

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Tent Question #3: Common Tent Setup and Maintenance Mistakes?

Mark M

I've done a lot of scout camping in my younger days, was our pack's campmaster for 15+ years, and continue to do a lot of camping every year, sometimes with larger groups of family and friends. I often hear stories about how this or that model tent stinks, but upon listening further, I realize that the problem primarily is due to the user not setting-up the tent properly or not preparing/maintaining the tent properly.

So what are some of the tent setup and maintenance mistakes you've seen, and how do you prevent them from happening. For example:

Do "modern, high-quality" tents need to have their seams sealed before use? Exactly which seams need to be sealed? Do you apply sealant to the inside or outside? Do the seams need to be periodically resealed? What about tape?

With heavy-duty, sealed, waterproof, bathtub floor designs, is a ground sheet still a necessity, and if so, what kind? Is a larger ground sheet better than a short one?

Orienting your tent versus ground features, the sun and wind?

Protecting against water, animal and overhead dangers?

Anything else you've experienced.
So far some great answers. I like to make my own ground sheets as well, but they do need to be shorter than the floor of your tent, or tuck the excess under, to avoid rain from running down the tent walls, collecting on the ground sheet and then possibly pooling between it and the tent floor.

Making a nice layer of dried leaves, leaf duff, pine needles or dry grass not only protects the floor of the tent, it adds insulation and padding while crawling around on your knees. I don't trench; on hard ground I think it's too disruptive, and on loose or sandy ground it's generally unnecessary. But I will take advantage of existing trenches if aligned conveniently.

I'll admit the rolling vs. stuffing argument is new to me. I've seen a few fathers stuff their tents back in the bag, but always chalked it up to laziness. I've always been anally-retentive enough to try and roll my tent as neatly and compactly as possible. Maybe it's why my tents have lasted so long?

Haven't seen anything
... about cheap or incorrect type of stakes. Are they all the same?

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I've seen more tent damage from mis-use, carelessness than anything else, here are some off the top of my head (Scout Leader)

#1) Tent not fully dried when packed. Mold will destroy a tent fast.
#2) Not fully opening zippered doors prior to entry/exit. My little twits can not get out of the habit of opening the fly with the double zipper juuuuusssst enough to step through. At best this puts a lot of stress on the zipper and eventually they will no longer close the zipper coils. Worse, though, the little buggers overestimate their grace and frequently trip on the small opening, causing a tear.
#3) Along the lines of grace, tripping over guy lines.
#4) Tent pole jousting (rolls eyes and sighs)
#5) Food in tents (including other objects that smell like food to animals). Ever see what a determined squirrel can do to a tent? I hope to never see what a Bear would do after seeing a tent destroyed by a small furry mammal.
#6) Failure to pin and guy the tent. I've been in the middle of a 50 mile long lake when a tent went rolling by. I was impressed with it's ability to shed water, but never did locate the owner. My Scouts frequently are running after tents, but have never lost one...yet.

We do use ground tarps cut from large sheets of plastic, seems a good practice.
I have read, but am unable to locate the source, about a test between high end and cheap tents pitched in direct sunlight. The gist was that both were functionally destroyed within 150 days.

Seam sealer, if it is not broke, don't fix it. About every other year we gently hand wash the tents and re-apply nickwax as per the instructions. We only seam seal if there is a leak noticed as we begin the wash process.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of using a tarp instead of a tent for camping?

Q. My dad and I go backpacking a lot and while we were hiking a section of the Pacific Crest Trail we met some other hikers who were using a tarp for a shelter, instead of the usual tent. Using a tarp is not only lighter than a tent, but it is larger and easy to set up. We've been wondering if maybe using a tarp would be better.

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Ultralight backpackers such as Ray Jardine have revolutionized backpacking with the popularization of using sil-nylon tarps instead of tents.

Tarps provide ventilation which tents do not, thus reducing condensation, which dampens everything inside your tent, especially your clothing and the insulation of your sleeping system, which, especially on long trips, will leave your gear heavier and colder every day, especially during inclement weather. Tarps are lighter and offer more coverage as you've already mentioned. Tarps require no poles and can be pitched between two trees or using two branches or a combination of the two. And tarps are actually stronger than tents by weight, contrary to ignorant assumptions, because they can be pitched low into high winds, and ideally have multiple guy lines that can be staked or tied out. And there are no poles to bend or break. It's utterly laughable for anyone to state that tent poles are stronger than a couple of stout poles found in the woods: You're doing it wrong.

A couple years ago I sewed my own tarp and net tent, which hangs underneath the tarp as protection from mosquitoes, and replaces the need for a ground cloth, using Ray Jardine's tarp and net tent kit and Tarp Book, which includes all the instructions you need.

Since then my wife, daughter and I have successfully and comfortably camped under our tarp tent inside our net tent several times in the Sierras, strangely often in high winds. I have had a corner stake pull out during the night but on our last trip to Winnemucca Lake in Mokelumne Wilderness the winds were just as strong but the tarp required no adjustment during the night.

My tarp is 17.6 ounces with its stow-bag. 8 anodized aluminum stakes plus stow-bag weighs 4.5 oz. And the net tent its stow-bag weigh 11.9 oz. For a total of 2 lbs, 2 oz. for a shelter for 2 1/2, half the weight of the 2 man REI Quarter Dome with stakes. Like I said, no ground sheet needed because the net tent has a sil-nylon floor which hasn't shown much sign of wear.

We haven't had too much rain yet, but after sewing and seam sealing my tarp I set it up in the backyard and rigged up a sprinkler to test it and I have no doubts I'd stay dry and comfortable in any weather short of a blizzard.

Of course tarps are three-season use only and in winter you'd want a single wall tent but why suffer the other three seasons because you can't afford two tents when your second tent can be an inexpensive tarp.

You can read about Ray Jardine's 2009 through-hike of the Appalachian Trail where he evaluates the performance of his own tarp and net tent here: http://www.rayjardine.com/adventures/2009-AT/index.htm

Before Ray designed his net tent he used the same tarp but to protect against swarms of mosquitoes he wore a set of uncoated nylon wind-shirt and wind-pants to bed along with homemade nylon mittens and of course a head net. The wind-pants and wind-shirt are dual use of course, keeping you warmer in the wind and drier in light rain while repelling mosquitoes.

Everyone in my family has a set of wind-pants, windbreaker and mosquito head net because you can't stay in the net tent forever, and I've gone without it, sleeping with mosquitoes buzzing around my head net in the evening, and would anyway to save weight, but my family likes the comfort of the net tent.

Of course if you don't want to sew your own sil-nylon tarp with "beaks" and other features you can buy plain square tarps of various materials and weights from coated nylon to sil-nylon. I used the $60 Campmor Sil-Nylon Tarp before Ray started making his kits but it's not the best, which is sewing your own.

Here's another article on the subject: http://www.the-ultralight-site.com/backpacking-tarps.html

If you're planning to camp above treeline it's a simple matter to pick up a couple of sticks along the way and keep or discard them as needed. Better than carrying poles ALL the time.

They also make tarp poles for the uninitiated.

Anyone who's sewn their own tent, sleeping quilts and backpacks for themselves and their family and used them successfully while backpacking solo and with a child from age four to six, all over the Sierra in all kinds of weather , please stand up, otherwise you don't have a leg to stand on nor any right to tell me what I've said isn't true and what I've written doesn't work. If you don't know how to pitch your tarp in the wind or don't have the wherewithal to move your camp to somewhere more sheltered if the weather becomes unbearable you don't belong in the wilderness.

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